Thats meat harvesting and theres nothing wrong with it. WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. Just my opinion. The conversion cylinder is indeed just a part, and can be bought anywhere any time any place. It has never given me a lick of trouble, and whenever I am at a shoot where I want to do as best I can, it will be in my right holster, with a 3rd Gen Colt in my left. Rolling I can put up to 60 grains into each chamber, though I usually use 40. If a conversion cylinder (to shoot black powder cowboy loads) Many find that the higher loads are less accurate. Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. Same here, EMF Hartford 45s, circa 95-96. .. when I first tried sass back in the nineties this brand was Quite popular .. now that Ive returned to sass after ten plus year, never here or see any thing , Just curious mostly as they been sit in in my safe for over ten years.. they were fun to shoot for someone who couldn't afford real guns like me STAN. The firing pin broke on the 3 or 4th shot. Theres something fun about putting the Glock 30 away and taking out the Peacemaker. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. THE BLUING ON THE OCTAGONAL BARREL SHOWS FRECKLING ALONG WITH LIGHT MUZZLE WEAR. Any help would be appreciated. Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. Mounted Shooting 1873 Rifle Cleaning Instructions. Can anyone tell me a good load to start? WOOD 36 Caliber; 75% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Uberti 1851 Navy 6 shot .36 caliber black powder revolover. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. BORE IS GOOD WITH GOOD 36 Caliber; 60% blue, fair bore, good grips, 5'' barrel, REPRODUCTION OF 1851 NAVY REVOLVER. Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. THE LOCK IS IN THE WHITE. converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination I grew up watching all of the old western movies on TBS. ROFL, So nice to read about black powder stuff here. To be smooth like a real Winchester. REcoil is essentially nonexistent. Silliness aside, I had little to no interest in black powder until I was at the range next to an older fellow firing rounds through an old muzzle loader rifle. Used Blued 1858 Cylinder Pins (will fit Pietta and ASM) 4 ea. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. Safety pins, safety notches, po-TAY-tow, po-TOT-owe. An iron-sight Hawken at whatever range you can stay on a sheet of typing paper EVERY SHOT offhand is hunting. It wears Pietta gripframe screws, too. BRASS TRIGGER GUARD / GRIP ASSEMBLY. 1885 Low Wall Manual. Then little oil and you are set. It's not my "go to" rifle, (that is an AWA Lightning) but now that it's been worked on, it's a nice one. I never did fault him for it even though he was 3000 miles out of his jurisdiction. Amounts shown in italicized text are for items listed in currency other than U.S. dollars and are approximate conversions to U.S. dollars based upon Bloomberg's conversion rates. Have fun. Our governor says that they can melt when shot I have a few black powder guns I have hunted with them for years and have yet seen one melt down .But the Local store here wont order one for you. Great review. That's your build date. 44 Caliber; 85% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. I like to put some Bore Butter into the mouth of each cylinder on top of each ball. Type: Revolver. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers. My advice is to buy the gun and cylinder, forget that the combination will cost about the same as a modern revolver and enjoy the heck out of it. WebRemington Rolling Block; Remington Lee; 1865 Springfield (1st Allin) 1866 Springfield (2nd Allin) 1868-70 Springfield (50/70) 1873-1889 Springfield (45/70) 1873 Winchester; 1885 Winchester; 1895 Winchester Lee Navy; Winchester Hotchkiss; Winchester Model 61; Winchester Model 62; Winchester Model 86; Winchester Model 90/06; Winchester Model: 1858. The rifle is the best looking gun in my collection, even better than my Henry. It was Assistant District Attorney Ben Stone that shot LaHood. So I fire the shotgun first now, and cuss at the rammer, and have 9 chambers of wholy fun otherwise. Watch Cabelas.com or Cabelas stores ( if you have one close to you) The greatest going away gift I ever got in my 25 years in the Army was the Uberti 1873 with my name and callsign engraved on the barrel that the guys in my battalion gave me when I left command. In the interest of keeping shooters out of prison, I will wade in. Plain walnut grips. The patent date is 1858. My neighbor has a deer lease with a very comfortable raised blind. I have a Uberti 1847 Walker. The 1858 Remmy is my favorite gun. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. All you have to do is go inside of a gun made by them and you will see how bad it is. As neat as that would seem it can also be a curse. 1876 Rifle Manual. Hot water dissolves the salts in black powder fouling and heats the metal so it dryes fast and prevents flash rust. Fine. My very first Cap & Ball Revolver was replica of aaan1860 Colt Army Revolver. But, since he doesn't shoot "cowboy" any more it's part of my backup pair to my main Colt guns). Nice! Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. Do put grease in each chamber after loading. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. Are the parts hand made/fitted, or is the manufacture generic these days? The 2nd ASM is a Colt SAA clone, the EMF "Hartford" model. Snapped back so hard the hammer tore a chunk of meat from my thumb. Did you wash it in kitchen sink? FINISH SHOWS MODERATE HANDLING WEAR WITH LIGHT WEAR AND A NAVAL SCENE ENGRAVED ON THE CYLINDER. I was watching them in the 80s and was able to watch all of the Clint Eastwoood movies multiple times. Even though todays 1858s are made with modern steels and CNC machines, you still want to shoot only light cowboy loads through them. To add to the confusion Chiappa did purchase the 92 rifle tooling and left over parts from ASM. We raise cattle, same thing. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Fits .44 and .36 7.25 ea + 2.75 shipping via USPS 1 ea. She just a rolls out inna ya hand! This is what the reg provides: The term antique firearm means any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system)manufactured in or before 1898. Original blued finish, case colored frame, brass trigger guard and backstrap. It could definitely be loaded to deer-hunting levels but I just used it to punch large holes in an old oil drum we left against the sand bank at the quarry. Remington. WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. I send one of their revolvers back after opening it. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. Yup means I cant sell a converted C&B without using an FFL. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping. In the beginning, I had a pair of ASM Colt clones. Black Powder Revolver Manual. Great article. surrounded by 9 .44 chambers. I had not planned to involve myself in another topic, but there was so much conflicting information about what guns do and do not require involvement of the BATF. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why The other was a blued adjustable-sight Old Army that was just sheer round-ball hilarious to shoot. If you slip when cocking the hammer you can set a cap off. Perfect for display and target shooting. FINISH SHOWS LIGHT FADING WITH LIGHT HIGH-EDGE WEAR. Rare US coins, Carson City, Nevada history, Redheads. The type of man who could sell Deep Freezers and electric Fans to Eskimos! THE BORE IS MIRROR BRIGHT WITH MINTY RIFLING 44 Caliber; 97% blue, excellent bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, PIETTA REPRODUCTION OF A COLT MODEL 1860 ARMY PERCUSSION REVOLVER. 1860 Henry Manual. Great writeup of a gun that has been on my list for a while. I always chuckle when I clean it in the sink with soap and water. Perfect for display and target shooting. All of the Pietta replicas I have are fantastic, and they were all sourced from the same supplier (see last paragraph). I got my first 58 Remington in 1989 for Christmas ($99 from Cabelas). Blued finish, plain walnut grips. could be in your future, you would want a steel frame pistol instead of brass. The ASM firing pin holes in the recoil shields weren't hardened so they tend to develop a dimple that the primer flows in to binding the cylinder. Anyway it worked, never had a problem since. The same dimensional differences for width, etc will occur with the triggerguard and backstrap at the frame, but the screw pattern is always right on. Pew Poll: Gun Control Losing Steam, Money and Popularity, Gun Review: Smith & Wesson Model 317 Kit Gun .22LR Revolver, New From ShaloTek: P320 Compensated Slide, The 3 Most Important Handgun Shooting Stances to Learn, http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/blackpowder-revolvers/1851-1861-navy-collection/1851-navy-steel-36-5-octagonal-barrel-steel-case-hardened-frame-brass-backstrap-trigger-guard-model-002.html, Johnnie Roper (Gunslinger9378 on the 1858Remington.com Forum. Not only is that the right way to hunt, deer that go down fast and clean taste better. Ive been pretty satisfied with Clean Shot sub, and it smokes a lot less and produces significantly less fouling. And a .50 sabot over 100 grains of Pyrodex is a humane, instant-kill deer load out to 150 yards. Ryw, they sued, but I thought it was because "people would see PeaceKEEPER and think it was a PeaceMAKER". Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. Contact Fingers McGee or Driftwood Johnson. I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. I have developed a way of cleaning and loading, that if followed EXACTLY, will give YOU the same degree of Reliability as I have! Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. I ended up giving it to an NRA black powder teacher to use for show and tell, (to show his class how to ruin a beautiful piece by not properly cleaning before long term storage). Ihave been thinking about getting one of these for a while, I have a question. Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. I HAVE A 1858 44CAL. The 1858 Remington has safety notches cut into the cylinder in between the nipples, giving the un-cocked hammer a place to rest thats not on a percussion cap. The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) On clening, dont whatever you do mention water, on a web site run by some guy named John Fuhring. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. Model: 1858. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Bluing shows wear and scratches overall with a turn ring and wear to the notches on the cylinder. FINISH SHOWS MODERATE HANDLING WEAR WITH MODERATE WEAR, SPECKLING AND LIMITED PITTING VISIBLE ON THE CYLINDER. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. Rust and pitting on metal. I have several cap-and-ball revolvers, all made by Pietta. 5.5" barrel in .45 Colt. I have a spare cylinder in the LC so I can keep shooting just by swapping the cylinders. About 400 ft-lbs Energy. WebRemington Rolling Block; Remington Lee; 1865 Springfield (1st Allin) 1866 Springfield (2nd Allin) 1868-70 Springfield (50/70) 1873-1889 Springfield (45/70) 1873 Winchester; 1885 Winchester; 1895 Winchester Lee Navy; Winchester Hotchkiss; Winchester Model 61; Winchester Model 62; Winchester Model 86; Winchester Model 90/06; Winchester 1885 High Wall Manual. New in Box-never fired. Got one of each. True for the 1873 and any other revolver deaigned to fire cartridges. Type: Revolver. To sum up, if you want a gun that you can use for Years, Pass it onto your Son, or maybe even your Grandson, buy a steel framed Remington Style Revolver from Either Pietta, or A.Uberti & Son, and with due care and respect, the gun will last several lifetimes! Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. I had not planned to involve myself in another topic, but there was so much conflicting information about what guns do and do not require involvement of the BATF. I remember this because I had a pair of them at the time this came up. 1899. They are both shooters and I believe they will have a blast with this next time I visit. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. After the first range trip, i tore it down to the last screw and cleaned/oiled the whole thing and still wound up with some rust on it when I put it back together the next day. One reason is I am new to bp and have no one to ask for help. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL Reenacting: CW & IW THSS TSRA NRA Life THE BLUING IS NEAR FLAWLESS. Today, we know Old Number 21478 as the Remington 1858 . A lot of their workers did not want to move out of town where all the gun makers were located, so ASM lost a lot of their talent which started their quality problems. 1873 Single Action Manual. Friends (very few of them) are welcome to spend the night on the sofa, be on the back porch at sunrise, and harvest a doe with his thanks. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. One was an early 50s bolt-action Savage Sporter in .25-20, which would do everything at 125 yards you could reasonably expect from a good .22 at 50. I use the same 452s in my bps that my wife uses in her .45 acp both 452s with the ring shear it is still .450. Not that it cant be done. Either way, a good dose of lube also helps keep the black powder fouling moist and pliable, and easier to clean out. Put some lube over the ball to prevent chain fire. A few years ago the trigger just wore out. Exc condition, appears unfired. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. and they sent me a Pietta trigger which fit just fine. View more auctions here. About 200 ft-lbs Energy Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. The one thing I really like is that the entire process of loading is actually fun, whereas for my M&P45 loading a mag isnt something to get excited about. http://www.1858remington.com, a.k.a. Armi San Marco and Armi Sport now Chiappa are two different companies. JavaScript is disabled. Howell Conversions - GATED 1858 Remington Pietta .45 LC. Selleck also used a Winchester 1876, and there are various Winny models all over town. Eventually, the design inspired the 1875 Remington, a true metallic cartridge revolver, but one that clearly shows the influences from the 1858. 1866 Rifle Manual. Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. WebAN ARMI SAN MARCO pistol is currently worth an average price of $286.19 new and $274.52 used . 6d 19h left (Thu, 11:33 AM) $29.95 Buy It Now +$7.95 shipping Sponsored Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco New (Other) $27.95 Buy It Now +$3.99 shipping Sponsored WebAN ARMI SAN MARCO pistol is currently worth an average price of $286.19 new and $274.52 used . For powder loads, the .36s usually run 15-20 grains (that is by volume, not by weightso you MUST use a measure), while most loads for .44s that Ive seen (all my guns are .36) are 25 to (max) 35 grains. That's your build date. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. If you do this you dont need a wad. So, they tended to go out of time prematurely, particularly for CAS. Gauge: 44 percussion. THE BORE IS .45 Colt; near mint bore, like new grips, 7 1/2'' barrel, UBERTI CATTLEMAN REPRODUCTION OF A COLT SAA IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. (#% or 40 grains.) I have three Sheriffs Models, and consider them SO GOOD, I carry one every day for Self-Defense! I shot it once in the neck using a 200 grain 45 acp fmj bullet and about 37 grains of 777. If you see one for sale someplace, check it out carefully before you buy. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. The standard pistol primer is an 11, but if it does not fit tightly and has to be squeezed to make it stay on, you have the wrong size. Actually, percussion caps come in slightly different sizes, as do nipples. Actually. That means that two Colt Peacemakers coming off the line 1 minute apart (11:59PM on Dec 31 1898 and 12:00 AM on Jan 1, 19 99, define the force of the law. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. The firing pin broke on the 3 or 4th shot. My First Colt Style Gun, and my Last Colt style gun! THE FRAME RETAINS 96% OF ITS CASE COLORS. LaHood was put down by the miner the Preacher had been helping using a buffalo gun at about 5 yards. First, only one person had the cutoff date right; it is 1998 / 99. WW II RIBBON USS SAN MARCOS LSD-25 NAVY*EMBROIDERED POLO SHIRT/SWEAT/JACKET. Ramrod present. Then, I took it to a gunhack who buggered the threads. Replica Arms was the first importer for ASM revolvers, the first being the 1847 Walker. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. Some, like Traditions would rather just to volume and dont seem to be very demanding of quality. Still have one that is now a back up. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. THE BORE HAS GOOD RIFLING. Youd use either #10 or #11, the 11s being the larger. I even got a lee mold to cast mini BP bullet for 36 cal , but cause the bullet was a tad long to fit in cly loading press on the navy,I never tried it thanks Stan. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why it broke due to stress risers from the poorly finished part). PS: if you want to do more target shooting, but find yourself having to sell your wife, EAA (European/American Arms (Germany) makes some beautiful peacemakers replicas in everything from 44 mag to 22 LR (the latter comes with a second cylinder for the robust little 22 magnum). Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO. I know! THE FRAME AND HAMMER RETAINS APPROX 90% OF THEIR COLORS.. I have an ASM Colt clone. I've thought I might make a lamp out of it one day. Some were mentioning movies in which the Remington 1858 made an appearance. One, an 1851 clone was built of the same parts produced by Uberti when they built the Colt "2nd Gen" percussion revolvers. Blue in very good 44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. This version features improved accuracy. The heavier loads are a bitch on my wrists so Ido plinking at about 20 grains. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. I also have an open top revolver and an 1873 rifle that are Uberti. The .44 Remmington is a very strong gun. Remington with 40 grains. Treat he hammer with the same respect you treat the trigger. BORE IS FAIR. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. Many folks have made the same mistake, though. Fine review with everything that makes a gun review great: guns, history and guns. He sent it back twice because of some minor issues, but its a nice gun for ~$200. Just make sure that you compress the powder with the ball when you press it into the cylinder. They thought if they started raising the price on their guns to in the, same range as Uberti that all the problems would go away. 1873 Rifle Manual. . The conversion cylinders are also not regulated, so you can get all of those you want and no one has any record of it.. I took 2 quick shots at about 70 yards (yes, too far, I know) one round hit its head, the deer dropped. Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. He examined the gun and proclaimed it one of the good ones and made me a really good offer that I applied to a like new in box NMV. FRONT SIGHT IS MISSING. My dad of course saw them when they were new. Meat harvesting is whats done here in Texas. I load as follows: THE FRAME, HAMMER AND RAM ROD ASSEMBLY RETAIN 97% OF EUROARMS 1858 REMINGTON NEW ARMY - C56032, Westerners Arms Colt Percussion Revolver - C56011, Mendi Single Barrel Percussion Pistol - C55991, Italian Guild Remington Percussion - C55994, A. Uberti & C. Mod.1875 Army STAINLESS FINISH SHOWS MINISCULE HANDLING WEAR.

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